So here goes.
Allow me to say that I love churches.
I come from a great one =)
Forever grateful and will not trade it for another.
One of the best things they teach you is about LOVE.
To love the Lord, To love your neighbours, your enemies, as well as the love of the opposite gender. =)
Yes, there’s where we’re going today. Haha
*Pat yourself at the back and say, “Lucky ME…go on! (dun worry, nobody’s lookin)*
It’s great that churches are teaching what LOVE is all about, that true love waits,
teaches us to value our singleness and focus on developing ourselves, making ourselves better for the other person, teaches young people not to conform to society, but to have values, standards and not to be apologetic about it.
But isn’t it also funny that there are still so many single ladies in the church?
And when I say single, I mean, Ready-Ready-single.
Does the church teach us how to go and get the guy, or get the gurl?
I mean seriously, its great that we focus on developing ourselves, and live great standards, but after ALL that is done and the time is ‘right’…what happens?
And funny how the church preaches so passionately bout what true love is and to guard our hearts, but seems to be very quiet about the issues of “what happens next”.
Are we really being relevant?
Coz the last time I checked, there isn’t any ALPHA classes for “How to date”
Go figure and lets discuss =)
Told ya I might get crucified. haaha
18 comments:
Hi Bernard,
I agree with you for most of the churches in M'sia but my church here in Mlebourne did very differently and openly on this topic. The reverent in my chruch always encourage guys or girls to find the other half in the church. We even had sunday school for this kind of topic and we did a lot of discussions and interactions with the teacher which aged around 60+ and he's a migrant from M'sia. I was surprised with his open minded.
Cheers,
DianaQ
now that u've mentioned it, its kinda funny that we have talks on homosexuality but nth on this. lol
looks like you're pretty 'ready' yourself Bernard... so.. Go For It!!---> WISELY =)
God did promise to give us wisdom; He generously gives it to us who ask Him for it (James 1:5).
Cheers!
Hahaha. Bernard, I couldn't have agreed better :)
With all the talks on being single and guarding your hearts - it's almost as if dating is wrong. Heh.
ezZtheRr
that's a good question. but don't ya think a guy would find it a natural thing to pursue a gal that he's interested in?
only methods differ. some are effective, some repulsive. hehe. they say, experience is the best teacher. that's how you hone your dating chops. HAHA. :P
hey felix, you're a smart dude. totally agree with u.
The "ready-ready-single" ladies go for guys outside church. What's happening man?? Something must be abuzz bout the guys themselves... or issit the problem of the girl i.e.fussy etc?
I agree with your post.
Go figure.
By the way, seems like my best "what's next" answer is this: I don't know about SIB KL but at ACTS Church, the leadership of the church does encourage 'pre-courtship', whereby a guy and a gal gets to know each other more. Of course must be done under accountability and their leaders must be fully aware that they've taken such a stance.
Pre-courtship is also a lesen to go 1-on-1...and the whole process works in such a way to see whether each party is ready to bring the friendship to another level, which is serious courtship, then marriage. In other words, whether they can "gel" anotlah in this pre-courtship stage. You get what I mean?
So what do you do in pre-courtship? You talk about issues and discover each other's interests and passions. You add value to each other's lives.
However, even if the whole thing doesn't work out at the end of the day, both parties can still come away whole without feeling hurt or obligated to the other. Best thing is, they still remain friends after that. =) Hope it answers your question.
Gday Diana =)
yup yup.
whouw?!! Sunday School?
haha, thats sooo cute. haha
serious.
So, Which church are you attending there?
God Bless
Merlyn-
HAHAHAHAHa...
dats a good one Merlyn. haha
well, with due fairness, i've gotta say that the whole issue of homosexuality is indeed preceeding la, and we might not feel its impact but ive gotta say that its definitelly has grown since 15 years ago here in Malaysia at least.
well, maybe if we look further wat 15 years from now will be?
...ahah!...got ur attention dee lehh?
you might have to worry bout how you deal with ur boy bout his best friend keeps on looking at him funny!
i knw!! , i dread that to happen too.
wat bout you?haha
so go COUZ this month! hahah
God Bless
Van, hahah
not sure which van is this....hahaa
But thanks for the encouragement! hahaha
God BLESS.
Hey Ezztherrrr =)
How you doing? Keep me updated ey?
Well, im sure they didnt intend to give that impression.
But it was just in my head la, maybe its just a bell ringing for us?
After all, we are ONE BODY after all ma.
hai mm hai?
God Bless =)
Hey Felix,
Great to hear from you.
Things doing good with College?
Yup i totally agree that its natural for guys to persue a gurl. *doubt theres anyone who would do the same towards somebody who killed his family..but...thats not the point..hahah*
My point exactly Felix, I think thats the thing you knw, i mean this subject can be subjective, but heres the thing, with experience, like you mentioned, some really turned out bad, REALLY BAD.
But i reckon wats more important is the APPROACH. Im not talking bout HOW to as in HOW 'SPECIFICALLY' TO, but rather the APPROACH, as the same as how the Church teaches bout the approach of LOVE.
Do we provide the Approach?
Thats a good one! Well maybe you should start asking your leaders what are their comments on this issue. =) I've asked myself before too, but never searched for answer!!! =(
Hey hey,
Yeah, I understand what you're talking about. Taking the right approach at any given situation is often not easy; the approach is so subjective as all gals are different. But until you discover what works for the gal you're after, general approaches like being friendly, respectful, kind and being yourself are good starters. :)
For instance, I have had one female opined that calling her 'HOT' was acceptable and somewhat pleasing, and another female friend thought calling her 'HOT' was plain sleazy.
Then again, it's difficult to limit the approach to a certain format as there are too many variables involved. God gave us creativity for a reason, so BE CREATIVE! Haha.
whoops, i just realized that i answered it in a different way...
if you're talking about that kind of approach, then i think 'yes', the Bible does provide that approach.
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. Is it not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no records of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." (1 Cor 13:4-7)
if you applied this principle to all facets of your relationships with parents, siblings, friends, lovers and whatnot, you probably won't go wrong.
Excellent Felix.
dats the way!!!
(MY QUESTION EXACTLY, WHY DIDNT WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS LIKE THESE, AND HAVING SOMEONE IN CHURCH TELLING WHAT YOU SAID TO US?!!)
Then again, the reason i posted this up is not just to remind ppl to go back to the word.
Its simply because ppl DONT!
But thats another topic altogether.
But i gues what im trying to figure here, is why the church seems to be very quiet bout this compared to the rest of the issues of relationships?
Coz if your talking bout going back to the word, im sure the rest of the things that the church DO talk about also can be traced back to the word.
Variable you say?
Well, arent the rest of our issues variable as well?
My question is why cant these issues be talked about as much? Doesnt the issue deserved to be heard?
hahhah, go figure =)
(tip. think along this, im not looking for an answer, im looking for a REASON)
God Bless
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